vokus
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Audoni
Registered: 07/08/12
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| Posted 07/22/12 at 11:35 PM | #2 |
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Just beautiful! This is what I have been looking for right here. I like the idea of the chromebox, but I'm just not ready to give up the functionality of an actual PC I don't think. I might end up buying a laptop, but I want to exhaust all other ave first. 
What's the power consumption of the PC sans the monitor when it's running a "normal" workload?
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vokus
Registered: 02/23/12
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| Posted 07/23/12 at 03:08 AM | #3 |
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Idle for the system seem to be at 17.3 watts.
(This includes the fan, a solid state drive, and a mechanical drive)
(Surfing the web, is basically system idle for this rig.)
Under 100% load, 4 cores, 8 threads you will draw 77 watts.
That is range you can expect to work in.
This is theoretical, but about 25 watts average for monitor, and 35 watts for computer, while watching full 1080p video... Or doing average computer work, like file compression, decompression, conversion...
Because this is a desktop processors, and the latest gen cpu and chipset, the power management on these new cpus is amazing. The computer automatically under clocks the cpu when you dont need the power, this saves a bunch of energy...
-For the price, you can not buy a laptop this powerful period.
-If you want this lever of performance in a laptop, you can expect to pay double...
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vokus
Registered: 02/23/12
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| Posted 07/23/12 at 10:36 AM | #4 |
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This is just one way to go about it...
You can actually use anything you want.
The above build is more of a productive and comfy setup for van dwellers.
An IPAD does not how much power and in general designed for mobile use on the go, not productivity...
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vokus
Registered: 02/23/12
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| Posted 07/23/12 at 04:43 PM | #5 |
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Guys I have nothing against laptops, and I my self own a very powerful laptop.
This build is specifically about low power consumption desktop computers. Some one on the other thread ask about this so I posted. In this day and age, you can build a computer or a laptop to almost any spec you want.
That was just my personal suggestion, on that topic...
Here is what im surfing the net on... Haha... It might be just a little over powered...
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twokniveskatie
weed warrior
Registered: 12/16/10
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| Posted 07/23/12 at 09:18 PM | #6 |
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In keeping with the OP's wishes for the original topic of their thread, I moved a few posts to their own thread:
http://www.cheaprvlivingforum.com/post/Discussion-of-compact-desktop-computers-vs.-laptops-for-vandwelling-5941760 |
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Bootsand
Registered: 08/30/12
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| Posted 09/02/12 at 12:37 PM | #7 |
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Vokus... I like your build. I'm putting together one of my own that is more oriented towards gamers that may have interest to you.
AMD's trinity platform is already released in mobile form for laptops, and the desktop versions are coming (hopefully) this october. The 65w triple core has serious gaming advantages over sandy bridge with intel HD1000 graphics. For encoding and other cpu-dependent work, I would still go with intel though.
One more thing you might like is the picoPSU... 160w DC only super small silent psu. http://www.short-circuit.com/product/picopsu-160-xt.html |
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SoulRaven
Registered: 08/07/11
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| Posted 09/02/12 at 03:48 PM | #8 |
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| For a quarter of the price and size just use a net-book...Acer has a fantastic line up and use one myself... A desk top and monitor are pieces that dont belong in a van... size, fragility, cards, and power is are all negatives, this is why laptops, net-books, and tablets are called mobile devices and why desk tops are called desk tops... |
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psytechguy
Registered: 06/13/12
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| Posted 09/02/12 at 06:46 PM | #9 |
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I'm putting a Mac Mini with an SSD and a cheap Acer monitor in my van. Very low power consumption, and a very powerful little computer.
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Bootsand
Registered: 08/30/12
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| Posted 09/05/12 at 01:05 PM | #10 |
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Vokus... I friggin' love the cpu cooler, btw. That thing is seriously a monster.
@soulRaven.. Netbooks really are wonderful on the road, and you can't beat the power consumption. Very true indeed. The trouble for a few of us (probably not many of us) is running more demanding tasks. If you are a mobile gamer, a desktop can still be the way to go (just takes a LOT more planning to get the most performance per watt!) |
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offroad
Registered: 07/15/12
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| Posted 09/27/12 at 05:49 AM | #11 |
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| Buy an IPAD2. Charge it up once. use it all day on wifi. |
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SoulRaven
Registered: 08/07/11
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| Posted 09/27/12 at 05:19 PM | #12 |
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If your need to game on the road is so great, buy a screaming laptop... Mine is Dell duel core, ATI vid w/2 gigs with 2 gig memory... Now if your an internet gamer, forget it, you will need to be hard wired to compete with out lag..
Quote: Originally Posted by Bootsand
Vokus... I friggin' love the cpu cooler, btw. That thing is seriously a monster.
@soulRaven.. Netbooks really are wonderful on the road, and you can't beat the power consumption. Very true indeed. The trouble for a few of us (probably not many of us) is running more demanding tasks. If you are a mobile gamer, a desktop can still be the way to go (just takes a LOT more planning to get the most performance per watt!) |
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||_Pilgrim
Registered: 10/23/12
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| Posted 10/23/12 at 04:56 PM | #13 |
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Vokus
Thanks so much for posting this build I've been looking at exactly the same case, CPU and motherboard combination with my major concern being power consumption and if that 90W PSU could handle the i5-3570k or if an i3-3225 would be better.
My build is the same except im using different variant of gskill ram (still 16GB) and just a single SSD (Crucial has lower power consumption than the Vertex 4) instead.
This is a Linux machine for a family member who wants a small dedicated work station to get familiar with Fedora and try some Python coding.
I'm curious about one of the statements you made and was wondering if you could clarify them for the benefit of my understanding:
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Quote: Under 100% load, 4 cores, 8 threads you will draw 77 watts.
That is range you can expect to work in.
By this do you mean you've put your system under 100% load and also measured 77 watts with your kilowatt or is that a rough estimate? Also have you used any CPU burn programs to see what the max wattage you pulling is?
Also just FYI the i5-2570k doesn't actually have hyper threading unlike say the i3-3225 so you actually only have 4 cores and 4 threads, not 8 threads. If you check Intel's site info on the processor you can see for yourself but I think you just made a typo 
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It appears you replaced the gross and silly white credit card wifi dongle thingy the motherboard came with. I have some spare antennas from a dead WRT54G router, will those work as replacements?
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Its a small case with not a lot of room, are there any things I need to watch out for or extra steps I should take to make sure everything fits just right? Any extra cable extensions I should use? How long are your SATA cables?
In the back of my head power is still a concern but seeing your build relieves much of my worries, if something needs to be done about power I can always get a pico PSU and replace it with that in the case i suppose.
Thanks again for the post.
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bk2valve
Registered: 12/23/10
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| Posted 10/23/12 at 05:24 PM | #14 |
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This is not for me, but I sure admire guys like you that can build this stuff....I wouldn't have a clue. I am fine with what I have but this seems like the perfect thing for those who make a living with their computer, etc. especially if you can build something custom....very cool.
Thanks for the thread Vokus.
Bri |
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||_Pilgrim
Registered: 10/23/12
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| Posted 10/23/12 at 08:02 PM | #15 |
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| duplicate post my bad |
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DazarGaidin
Registered: 08/01/12
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| Posted 11/01/12 at 12:12 AM | #16 |
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| Interesting. I can play any game out with decent frames on highest settings on my laptop, i think i paid 600 for it refurbished. It has a radeon graphics card that runs 2 different gpus, a slower one when not gaming then kicks up to the faster one when gaming/under load Ive no idea how much power it uses though... |
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